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"Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available" (whoistheleader2) 09/23/2020 at 11:21 • Filed to: car forums

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Boom! A forum dedicated to automotive blueprints. I found it through this fun little diagram of an old Renault Clio sedan.

It’s called !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! MCars.net Car Blueprints Forum which is oddly but delightfully specific.

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There’s some really fascinating stuff here.

You sort the blueprints by manufacturer. Which is how I found things like this blueprint of a 1989 Alfa Romeo 33 Series 3 station wagon.

Or this 2011 Citroen C4. I think it widely varies but some of these are made by the contributors. I’m not sure this one was but that top shot of the Clio obviously was.

Update: This Bedford one is very fine .

And they even have a first gen Chevy Cruze! Mine isn’t nearly as fancy as the one shown but it gets the point across. Also, the side view is an RS trim and the rear is an LTZ trim.

Drop any car blueprints you really like in the comments below.

sony1492 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 11:34

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Thanks for posting this, super helpful

au stin heally and Bugatti atlantic

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > sony1492 09/23/2020 at 11:37

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From the image posted, looks like it’s a Rabuggi Atlantic.....

EDIT: OK, I googled it, and evidently the Rabaggi is an Atlantic replica built on an S-10 chassis??!!???

https://trumpetb.net/57SC/finishing.html#paint

duurtlang > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 11:38

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Both my cars are in there. Interesting.

It does show why the coupe feels like a bit of a boat compared to the tiny convertible.

vondon302 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 11:38

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I wish they had a modern Boss one in the style of the Fost one. Good bye productivity for the the day and thanks for sharing. 

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > vondon302 09/23/2020 at 11:46

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That top one (Mustang) looks like it’s f rom Car and Driver.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > vondon302 09/23/2020 at 11:51

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One of my customers had his building blueprint etched into a sheet of steel for some wall art. I really want to do that with that focus st blueprint now.....

feather-throttle-not-hair > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 09/23/2020 at 12:08

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*pushes up glasses* I believe that’s  Road and track.

Maxima Speed > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 12:08

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Not surprisingly, no solara.

CivicWagonEngineer > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 12:17

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I hate Kinja, it won’t let me upload a picture

KnowsAboutCars > duurtlang 09/23/2020 at 12:27

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The 406 C oupe drawings are interesting. Is that an ad?

CompactLuxuryFan > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 09/23/2020 at 12:30

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I think it’s actually Road & Track that did those and I always thought they were neat. Somebody was putting a lotta work into those over there. 

duurtlang > KnowsAboutCars 09/23/2020 at 12:31

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I think it’s from a brochure meant for dealers .

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > duurtlang 09/23/2020 at 12:32

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First off, why is that first image a gif file? It’s just one frame of a gif.

Yeah I was surprised by how many normal and unremarkable cars they had blueprints of.

Striking just how big of a size difference there is between the coupe and the little cabrio. Those last blueprints are very impressive. Were they for some sort of ad I assume?

vondon302 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 09/23/2020 at 12:36

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Well damn so do I.

duurtlang > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 12:40

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No idea why it is a GIF. I simply downloaded it from that website.

iven some of the remarks I presume the 406 pictures are from a dealer brochure.

MUSASHI66 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 12:41

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Amazing

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > duurtlang 09/23/2020 at 12:42

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I just copy the image address into the paste image tool to get them on Kinja. A single frame gif is a very odd thing as you get much more compression.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > vondon302 09/23/2020 at 12:46

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That FoST diagram is quite well laid out. It really emphasizes how well proportioned those hatches were. I’m sure there is a better Mustang one out there but maybe just not in Boss trim.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 09/23/2020 at 12:47

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Yeah like maybe get it laser cut for an office decoration and get a matching sticker for the car.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > sony1492 09/23/2020 at 12:48

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“Super helpful” for getting mindlessly sidetracked admiring classic British roadsters? 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI 09/23/2020 at 12:49

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I thought the Type 54 Atlantic ‘s chassis looked a little odd. I don’t see why you would start with an S10 but I also don’t see why you wouldn’t .

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Maxima Speed 09/23/2020 at 12:51

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You didn’t look hard enough. They only have sheets 1 and 2 of 5.

It’s less of a blueprint and more of an informative series of photographs though. Perhaps something more like this would be cool.

sony1492 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 12:51

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Seeing dimensions helps determine acceptable values for how this should look(heights, widths, general silhouette). Trying to find blueprints like that on Google images can be a PITA 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > CivicWagonEngineer 09/23/2020 at 12:52

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Try the paste image tool with the URL.

vondon302 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 12:54

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Yeah there’s alot of Mustang stuff on there but this is the only Boss one.

I really like the Fost one perfect for framing or as someone else has said laser etch it on a sheet of aluminum. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > sony1492 09/23/2020 at 12:54

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And more often than not they are compressed fifth hand drawings that weren’t extremely accurate to begin with. Technical drawings can be hard to find for sure. Are you thinking about comparing proportions and dimensions for your (what’s its name again?) project?

BlurpleToyotaDishwasher > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 13:00

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GIF is primarily an image format. It’s been obsolete in that area since about 1998 and hung on because there was no like-for-like replacement for animations , but before PNGs it was the only real option for images that people could open in a browser that used lossless compression.

Which is why it’s absolutely terrible for file size and takes ages to load compared to actual video formats that sometimes pretend to be gifs these days, because it’s just a bunch of images compressed individually rather than video formats that also compress temporally.

SMCars has been around since at least 2002 or so, so they’ve got some old images still, because it works and it’s not like some black and white diagrams are suffering from GIF’s 256 colour limit so there’s no point in converting them.

Maxima Speed > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 13:00

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Yeah I should  have specified a 2nd gen Solara.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Maxima Speed 09/23/2020 at 13:06

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Until recently didn’t you have both gens?

By the way, this was turned up in a quick Google search.

https://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Blueprint-Artwork-Laser-Personalized-Perfect/dp/B07QZS17MY

It’s perfect for you! You can even get it with a wooden finish!

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > BlurpleToyotaDishwasher 09/23/2020 at 13:15

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That makes more sense if they were legacy images still in the database from a long time ago. I’m not sure if this is just Kinja’s image automatic image hosting working in a weird way but that is actually an MP4 file I mistook for a static .gif. I think Kinja converts all PNG images to jpeg if you insert them into a comment here.

There isn’t really any reason to save a static image as a .gif format now. PNGs have their own set of limitations. jpeg is good enough for most applications so I don’t have too much use for PNGs unless I’m working with something that was originally a vector image or something like that.

By the way, you can apply for posting rights on Oppo with Party-Vi in this post.

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/i-a-glutton-for-punishment-want-you-to-be-on-opposit-1844164784

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > MUSASHI66 09/23/2020 at 13:18

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Mmmmmmmm, now that’s great.

CivicWagonEngineer > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 13:32

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Tried it. I’m just going to wallow in despair over this minor inconvenience and maybe try again later tonight at home

sony1492 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 13:34

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Bee n calling it the lotus, seeing the dimensions of other cars let’s me know how reasonable things are(for example a scale drawing with an 18" overhang past the front wheels can be correlated to a vehicle ive seen in real life with a given overhang length)

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > CivicWagonEngineer 09/23/2020 at 13:35

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Sometimes Kinja just decides a random user should get Kinja’d and nothing can stop it. I lost the compose post button for like a month once. Now that was annoying.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > CompactLuxuryFan 09/23/2020 at 13:39

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You’re right!

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI > feather-throttle-not-hair 09/23/2020 at 13:39

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Yep, you’re right. 

Jb boin > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 13:48

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Ni ce find.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > sony1492 09/23/2020 at 13:52

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Have you made much progress on the Lotus recently? You haven’t posted about it in  a while. Still puzzling out the bodywork too?

sony1492 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 14:27

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Everyt hing went on hold for the Z, now thats done ive started work on the lotus. Picking up where I left off its getting the front suspension finalized, designing/ mounting the steering setup, and mounting the drivetrain.

Some sketches of a full body have been done, working digitally has been a struggle so its minimal. The side profiles are roughly to scale

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > sony1492 09/23/2020 at 15:46

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That is going to be a crazy looking car. There’s a little bit of clownshoe Z3 in there but in a good way. The front has a little bit of F Type and the side profile has a little bit of Cobra and some Breadvan too. It's a timeless shape that's for sure. 

Maxima Speed > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 15:57

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Second  gen only. 2004 and 2008.

sony1492 > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 16:19

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Thanks, Clownshoe is perfection in my mind. The design is somewhat based on what I think will be,"easy" to shape in metal so it ends up forcing 60's curves into everything 

onlytwowheels > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/23/2020 at 18:04

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This rabbit hole is very very deep.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > sony1492 09/23/2020 at 19:30

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Of course that is a consideration. I think you've done a great job of creating something beautiful yet feasible. Now just to wait to see it complete. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > onlytwowheels 09/23/2020 at 19:34

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Very deep indeed. 

pip bip - choose Corrour > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/24/2020 at 05:06

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no Yamaha Ox99-11 though.

:(

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/24/2020 at 08:43

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It's called SMCars, not SMBikes or SMCar-bikes.

pip bip - choose Corrour > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 09/24/2020 at 08:45

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this is a Yamaha OX99-11

:D

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > pip bip - choose Corrour 09/24/2020 at 08:55

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That's a weird looking bike ;)